For more than five years, officials pleaded with the public to come forward with information. Taylor said he talked to the Police Chief about investigative journalist Timothy Charles Holmseth. Juan Cesar Bermejo, 26, had a 600 to 800-year-old mummy in a cooler bag, authorities in the South American nation told ABC News. Meaning he walked from the furthest south he could (due north), up to the south end of the bridge after Cheyenne left, over the bridge passing the girls (who were headed south toward the bridge) before they crossed. Best friends Libby and Abby were on a hiking trail in rural Delphi when they were killed in the middle of the day on Feb. 13, 2017. However, the families gave the Murder Victims separate Days of Death - separate funerals. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Two young teens that simply decided the afternoon of Monday February 13, 2017 to ask "can we go to the Delphi Bridge?" They keep saying tho This is Delphi dear old Delphi, its safe and maybe it is usually. That 194-page document has since been sealed, but in it, investigators question Kline about the social media profile, anthony_shots, they say he admitted to creating six months before Libby and Abby were murdered to meet and get nude photos from underage girls. Delphi murders: Suspect charged in killing of teen girls 10/31/2022 A Delphi, Indiana, man, Richard Allen, has been arrested for the 2017 murders of eighth graders Abby Williams, 13, and. More than 70,000 tips have been submitted in the Delphi case, @IndStatePolice Superintendent Carter tells ABC News pic.twitter.com/TVMK9GLThA. DELPHI, Ind. Yet, divided in death -- if it is true that Murder Victim Liberty German had 5 or more times to escape it seems as though her wish would have been to share a "Day of Death" with Murder Victim Abigail Williams. Still, the voice of the suspected killer . So were talking roughly 3:07pm-ish. The family of Libby German says they were surprised to learn the Delphi teenager was talking online with a potential suspect in her death. Due to this being an ongoing investigation, the Indiana State Police does not confirm or deny anyone who is or is not a suspect. A mob of white vigilantes destroyed Tulsa's Greenwood neighborhood, known at the time as "Black Wall Street" due to its wealth and successful business enterprises, in 1921. Still, however, "facts" remain ill defined - over a years later. Muffley, 40, was set to take an Allegiant flight from eastern Pennsylvania to Florida's Orlando Sanford International Airport. When I've been reading through the comments there has been one thing repeated over and over. Banfield asked them, "How do you get beyond that extraordinary and awkward first dynamic to work together? Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. Also, when did Murder Victim Liberty German's mobile begin going straight to voicemail? Just so you know, the "creepy guy" comment has been debunked. Perhaps even being laid to rest close to each other. The shocking slayings cast fear across the small Indiana town and garnered national intrigue. It wasn't just one or two comments, there were 10/20+ per video. We just don't have enough factual information to formally fill in the most crucial blanks. But again, I got to rely on the investigating team," said Patty. Bermejo, a food delivery man, was allegedly showing off the mummy to two friends in the park in the southern city of Puno on Saturday, the Peruvian National Police said. Police reportedly arrested the unidentified . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8yv9i8Dmp4. Delphi Girls Murdered Libby German's grandfather reacts to police interview transcript and investigators' call for more information Mike Patty said it was "shocking" to learn that a potential suspect was talking with his granddaughter online before her death. "It's a small community," she told ABC News hours after Richard Allen's arrest was announced. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Carter would not talk about the suspect, Richard Allen, or what led police to him. I wish they would remove that from their story. They would not decide to hide in the woods avoiding any person searching for them. Allen was arrested Friday. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. According to a breakdown of the bill from Rep. Julia Letlow, R-La., school districts would be publicly required to post curriculum information, provide parents with a copy of revisions to state education standards, provide parents with the list of books and reading materials available in the library and more. With the dangers of the bridge itself being 4 stories high and no sides, plus in a disintegrating state, it is surprising they were allowed to go alone as you say, but maybe the Grandma did not realise its state, all the same its reputation should have sounded louder warning bells. Mallory Beach, 19, died when Paul Murdaugh, also 19, crashed his boat into a bridge after a long drinking session with friends. "People hear the title 'Women Talking' differently than they hear a title like '12 Angry Men,'" Polley said. The man charged with the girls' murders, Richard Allen, had his initial hearing and entered a not guilty plea, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said. AP Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13,. And they dont even handle that murder case. At the Leading Trail, Historic Delphi Trail Hikers can either take a Left, Right, Continue Straight. Suspect Arrested in 2017 Delphi Killings of Indiana Teens Liberty German and Abigail Williams Richard Allen, 50, was charged in connection with the deaths of the 13 and 14-year-old friends who. Viola Ford Fletcher, 108, and Hughes Van Ellis, 102, are the oldest African Americans to be granted citizenship in Ghana. Speculation swirls that a man arrested in connection with a 30-year cold case could also be linked to the Delphi murders. He's being held without bond and is set to return to court in January, McLeland said. "You have a say in your kids' education, not government and not telling you what to do," McCarthy said in his remarks. He has been targeted for a decade. On Dr. Phil, Becky German-Patty (Derrick German's Mother; Murder Victim Liberty German's Grandmother) stated "my son told me that he walked to the bridge (Delphi High Bridge). On its own, the case doesn't seem to stand out, but Fox News reported that Delphi investigators had actually gotten involved, working with those in Fort Wayne on the case. THE grandfather of a 13-year-old girl slain in the Delphi 'Snapchat murders' has warned her killer "you'll meet your maker."Eric Erskin told The Sun: . "Here's an opportunity to help and really aid in this space and help in this case," said Patty, adding he believes it's the public's help that will finally help investigators connect the dots they need to get justice for his granddaughter and Abby Williams. Abigail Williams and Liberty "Libby" German, both 14, died on Feb . Picture: LH/ Google. The unclear "facts" that the public has regarding this case makes this case unsettled. In the video, Taylors voice is compared to the voice released by law enforcement. INFILTRATED 'THE FINDERS' & EPSTEIN JSOC ONE MAN AWAY FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. An explosive device was found in a checked piece of luggage at Pennsylvania's Lehigh Valley International Airport on Monday, according to a criminal complaint. There is no excuse for not helping the Public when the Public are bending over backwards trying to help. Makes me wonder if BG was back in Cheyennes vicinity and Flannel shirt guy assumed they were a couple, but if that's the case why didn't Cheyenne see him?? Grandfather of girl, 13, slain in Delphi 'Snapchat murder' warns killer & fears case won't be solved in his lifetime. Potentially. The girls' bodies were. There are individuals that have invested a great deal of their time and energy seeking Justice For Murder Victims Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Taylor said he talked to the Police Chief about investigative journalist Timothy Charles Holmseth. German said she visited her sister's grave on Sunday to talk to her about the updates in the case. Health officials in Washington state said they are set to arrest a woman Friday after they said she has been avoiding treatment or isolation for tuberculosis for over a year. Including these two, that's seven people prior to everyone else showing up after 3:30pm. In other words, the lack of information could cause the murderer(s)sister/brother/mother/daughter unable to come to the correct conclusion upon inferring the circumstances. In the story this came from it has the photo of Abby walking on the bridge, but it states "if you look closely, in the distance you can see a man approaching." Im fairly new to the case and have recently started to watch YouTube videos about the investigation. It seems safe to assume that most parents would be experiencing overwhelming fear and terror not knowing where their 14 year old child is (or the 13 year old friend that the parent is chaperoning & is accountable for the 13 year old child's health, safety, well being). Police encourage the public to continue to submit tips at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535. The families also spoke of the difficulty faced in the early states of an investigation, where any of them could have been considered suspects, and the authorities had to investigate them to rule them out. They pictures Cheyenne took have a time stamp of around 3:40. The prosecutor would not say when Allen became a suspect or if he knew Abby or Libby. Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen, a member of the Delphi community, is seen in this undated photo at a local bar where he was a regular. Apologies, I don't remember a "guy in black"?? The eyes of America were on this case, Carter said, because Delphi -- a wonderful community -- is like so many other American towns. It seems as though a teen would have her phone charged before going out on such an outing. Does anyone know? Delphi, a close-knit town of nearly 3,000 residents, was filled with fear in the wake of the double homicide. Indiana State Police revealed Monday that Allen, 50, a Delphi resident, is charged with two counts of murder for the deaths of 14-year-old Libby and 13-year-old Abby Williams. Obviously, that was a piece of information they were holding tight to their vest," said Patty, speaking about his granddaughter's online activity. Again, presumingly leaving a second voicemail saying something such as "I am getting ready to pass the cemetery / I am getting closer to the trail / I am even closer than I was when I phoned you at 3:10pm and you did not answer your mobile." Mr. X: The main suspect in the case. Copyright HOLMSETH All rights reserved. Only LE has that information, and they aren't unassing anything for our sakes at least not yet. Inherent single mindedness of: You Will Help Me Find My Child(ren) rules both emotions and actions. "For it to be one of us, it's hard.". The two trains that crashed into one another were running on the same line for 12 minutes, and a distance of about 11 miles, Greek state TV said Wednesday. The new trial date will be set during the June bail hearing. Press J to jump to the feed. MORE: Police speak directly to the unknown Delphi killer: 'Today could be the day -- sleep well'. . Roughly an hour approx. Delphi murder suspect was 'right here among us,' victim's family says originally appeared on abcnews.go.com. TIA, https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/somebody-has-named-the-right-person-in-investigation-of-delphi-s. I can't confirm this but that's what I've read. The timeline of Murder Victim Liberty German's father arrival and witness locations should be solid and consistent. I was simply asking if there was anything else apart from the fact he looked similar to the sketch. So she was at the bridge after flannel shirt guy left and a good hour after the girls. It wasnt just one or two comments, there were 10/20+ per video. Maybe she was on the trails, but not the bridge between 3 and 3:30 or maybe she was a little off in her estimate. They had gone for a walk on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, and were found dead near a bridge and railway tracks. Sinai Hospital, the superintendent said. Mike Patty commended the police officers who he said were diligent and "sacrificed their own family time" to work on his granddaughter's case. The officer, who was on the force for five years, succumbed to his injuries at Mt. CHILD I TRIED TO HELP YOU I TRIED SO HARD! Yosemite has experienced significant snowfall in all areas of the park, with snow up to 15 feet deep in some areas and the parks closure on Feb. 25. Thank you for taking the time and effort to list items that are noteworthy and concerning. . I'm fairly new to the case and have recently started to watch YouTube videos about the investigation. Two survivors of the Tulsa Race Massacre became Ghanaian citizens, the Justice for Greenwood Foundation, Inc. announced on Tuesday. Allen is seen standing in front of the wanted poster. Guys its not me. Theyve checked me out; I was at work. Just a rumor. If the below is accurate - how was Cheyenne avoided? "I freaked out," agreed 68-year-old Mac McLeland, sitting next to Brower. Allen, a 50-year-old married dad of two and CVS technician, was taken into custody Friday and charged with two counts of murder for the mysterious slayings in Delphi. Both flannel shirt guy and Cheyenne mentioned seeing a man and a women on/around the bridge. Photos of Abby Williams, left, and Libby German, right, at police headquarters in Delphi, Indiana. Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, disappeared on February 13, 2017 - after being dropped off on a hiking trail near their hometown of Delphi, Indiana. The grandfather of Libby German, one of the victims of the 2017 Delphi slayings, says he is "hopeful" that an Indiana man recently charged with attempted murder of a 9-year-old girl is also. "It was shocking to me," said Libby's grandfather, Mike Patty. Plus they wouldnt have felt the need to start videoing or if it was him and he was acting weirdly surely shed have said grandpa what are you doing as its obvious the video was done to capture the random man acting strangely and for there to be evidence of it, I thought the original sketch favored the grandfaee and the second sketch favored a family member named CP. Considering Murder Victim Liberty German's Father's past (causing acrimonious emotions/events) combined with being arrested near The Delphi Bridge when Murder Victim Liberty German was around 10 years old -- why would Murder Victims Liberty German and Abigail Williams be allowed to go to that area by themselves? They took two innocent young girls' lives. However, such a statement does not make it true. A suspect has been arrested and charged in connection with the murders of two Indiana teens who were slain on a hiking trail near Delphi, Indiana, more than five years ago, Indiana State. Foo Fighters frontman Dave Grohl stepped out of the spotlight and into a collapsible, acrylic canopy with his smoker, brisket and ribs over the weekend, barbecuing food for hundreds of hungry and unhoused people in Los Angeles. Thank you for your answer! There is ONE MAN between Timothy Holmseth and President Trump. The interview transcript also showed that investigators questioned Kline about whether his father had access to the anthony_shots profile. As for the girls families, Carter said, I wish I could take their hurt away, but I cant.. ", In the wake of the arrest, Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter said, "Peace came over me -- and I didnt expect that to happen., He said in a message to the families that he hopes they have found some peace in this complicated world.. Libby's grandparents, Mike and Becky Patty, issued an appeal for help in 2021. The majority of people coming into contact with a Mother and/or Father in the midst of not knowing where the most important aspect of their lives is - not knowing if their truest love, heart, and soul (their child) is hurt, scared, in danger - will eagerly assist the Mother/Father find their Missing Child. We agree with the police on this. Murder Victim Liberty German's father Derrick makes a second phone call at 3:13pm to his (Derrick's) daughter's mobile. ", Was law enforcement told by an individual of one or both of the Murder Victims' family members / friends "these girls probably went off with friends .. they are probably hiding in the woods thinking it would be funny? Richard Allen is a married 50-year-old man who works in the local CVS store in the . For the most part it appears as though as the public has a certain image of the Murder Victims. Murder Victim Liberty German's father then parks his vehicle, has exited his vehicle, and begins walking the Delphi Historic Trail Trail at 3:14pm. (http://www.cityofdelphi.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=388&Itemid=269). The man seen walking on the bridge appears to resemble William Murtaugh. Mike Patty commended the police officers who he said were diligent and "sacrificed their own family time" trying to solve his granddaughter's case. Abby and Libby,. That sound so interesting. This allows the public to draw from their own cognizance. Mike Patty said it was "shocking" to learn that a potential suspect was talking with his granddaughter online before her death. "It really just takes your breath away to actually see that so close here, Midwestern, central Indiana atmosphere and have somebody that actually goes out and actually plans and stalks and preys on our children, it's sickening," said Patty. I think that there would be some sort of evidence pointing to the family member. Carter added that if anyone else was involved, that person will be held accountable. 2017 delphi murders of 2 teenage girls moving in 'new direction,' indiana state police say The teens were reported missing on Feb. 13, 2017, after they were dropped off at the Delphi Historic . Taylor did not elaborate on what he and the police chief talked about for an hour. Ad Choices, Who killed Abby & Libby, the Delphi murders; Grandpa sentenced in tot's cruise ship death - TCDPOD. "I've been led to believe all along by the police this entire time that there wasn't information there. "It's what's gotten us to this point. DELPHI, Ind. We offered to do anything they wanted, day one. A makeshift memorial for Abby Williams and Libby German next to a trail they were hiking the day they disappeared, Feb. 13, 2017, in Delphi, Indiana. Prosecutors accuse Allen of forcing the girls off . Statistically, the Murder Victims were more likely to have encountered an accident. Luke Kenton; Published: . The public is an asset to Law Enforcement. I think there was an early rumour that they thought the girls may have walked off to relatives, but I think close family knew something was very wrong, but you never know with teenage girls they can be unpredictable, but there may have been some early rumours that Libby may have taken off before, but as I say these are all old rumours. No one was concerned that the Murder Victims went near the creek, one girl fell hitting her head, one girl injured herself trying to save her friend, they both drowned -- or were somewhere along the creek in desperate need of medical attention? You touch on questions and concerns that I have also had. Murder Victim Liberty German's father walks straight along the Entrance Trail to the Leading Trail. YouTube: Who killed Abby & Libby, the Delphi murders; Grandpa sentenced in tot's cruise ship death - TCDPOD, Abigail Williams; Liberty German; Salvatore Anello, TRUE CRIME DAILY: THE PODCAST covers high-profile and under-the-radar cases, SUBSCRIBE: APPLE PODCASTS / SPOTIFY / STITCHER / GOOGLE PODCASTS / YOUTUBE. If the Delphi Bridge is being visited and photographed daily - it seems as though a murderer(s) would want to avoid a famous Historic location with photographers frequently pursuing it (the bridge). by Pentagon Pedophile Task Force on June 26, 2021 at 9:37 P.M. 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